Comments on: Mizuno Wave Alchemy 12 https://www.runningshoesguru.com/2012/07/mizuno-wave-alchemy-12/ Helps you choose the right running shoes. Sat, 25 Jul 2015 16:18:31 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.5.3 By: Jonesy https://www.runningshoesguru.com/2012/07/mizuno-wave-alchemy-12/#comment-361571 http://www.runningshoesguru.com/?p=6987#comment-361571 Hi, I ran in ASIC Kayano’s for years then ended up with the dreaded Plantar Faciatis! After some internet research I changed to Mizuno Alchemy 12’s. Best thing I ever did! I’ve had 4 pairs and love them but now I can’t buy them anymore. What’s the best alternative (and please don’t say ASIC Kayano’s)?

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By: Shine https://www.runningshoesguru.com/2012/07/mizuno-wave-alchemy-12/#comment-29913 http://www.runningshoesguru.com/?p=6987#comment-29913 In reply to James.

Hi, I have the same problem I´ve boutght the new baloance W940 for overpronators and It got me lots of blisters near my arch I don´t know now what type of shoes to buy can you help me

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By: JGG https://www.runningshoesguru.com/2012/07/mizuno-wave-alchemy-12/#comment-17562 http://www.runningshoesguru.com/?p=6987#comment-17562 In reply to Brenda Beauregard.

Why didn’t the 12 work for you? The midsole stayed the same. Was the fit throwing your stride off?

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By: Rick https://www.runningshoesguru.com/2012/07/mizuno-wave-alchemy-12/#comment-17252 http://www.runningshoesguru.com/?p=6987#comment-17252 Hi there. I’m looking for new running shoes. I’m over pronating quite much and have patellar tendonitis on both of my knees. Now my thoughts went out to the new Asics GT-2000, but i’ve read they are slightly narrow at the front. Now I’ve been playing volleyball for 12 years and played the last 7 years of them on Mizuno, because they provide more room in the front and because of their cushioning. The Mizuno Wave Alchemy 12 looks like the best running shoe for over pronating runners like me, but is it more supporting than the Asics GT-2000? And how about the cushioning? Thanks.

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By: James https://www.runningshoesguru.com/2012/07/mizuno-wave-alchemy-12/#comment-16962 http://www.runningshoesguru.com/?p=6987#comment-16962 I’m flat-footed as all get out, and often motion-control shoes give my incredibly painful blisters at the front of my arch. I used to love the Mizuno Wave Renegades because they were an awesome lightweight motion-control shoe that didn’t rub me right there. Can I expect the same thing from the Alchemy 12s?

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By: Mindi G https://www.runningshoesguru.com/2012/07/mizuno-wave-alchemy-12/#comment-16345 http://www.runningshoesguru.com/?p=6987#comment-16345 In reply to Brenda Beauregard.

I have run in the Alchemys for more than 6 years, but I could not wear the 12s. These caused almost immediate pain on the insides of my shins. Needless to say, I am anxiously awaiting the release of the 13s.

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By: Paul Richardson https://www.runningshoesguru.com/2012/07/mizuno-wave-alchemy-12/#comment-16277 http://www.runningshoesguru.com/?p=6987#comment-16277 In reply to Brenda Beauregard.

I left my faithful and trusty old Alchemy’s for the newer model – The Alchemy 12. I was left with severe shin splints, an injury that I’ve never had in years of running. While there was plenty of width at the front these shoes really pinched my heels – very narrow. Anyway I persevered for a good few months but plagued with sore shins and calf muscles. I have just left the Mizuno’s for the brooks Adrenaline GTS 13 and will see how they compare..

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By: Brenda Beauregard https://www.runningshoesguru.com/2012/07/mizuno-wave-alchemy-12/#comment-16030 http://www.runningshoesguru.com/?p=6987#comment-16030 I’m sorry to have to write this bad review on this shoe but I wasn’t impressed the 12’s. I wore several pair of shoes prior to this one…the 10’s & 11’s. I had no problem with either of these shoes….cushion and stability was a great fit & the run was comfortable. I purchased a pair of the 12’s & I couldn’t hardly finish my 5 mile run. My feet, ankles and shins were killing me!! I was in pain for several days afterwards. I pulled out my old 11’s again and wore them with no problem at all. I’m scared to put the 12’s back on for the pain I had experienced. I would like to get another pair of the 11’s because they are the best shoe ever!!!!! Thanks for hearing me out!! Brenda

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By: MJ https://www.runningshoesguru.com/2012/07/mizuno-wave-alchemy-12/#comment-15914 http://www.runningshoesguru.com/?p=6987#comment-15914 In reply to Theo Clyatt.

Thanks Theo!

I’ll be interested to see how the shallow/deep plays out. One problem I have had in this last cycle (c/b related to bunion or to hard speedwork) is the tendon that runs on top of big toe up to ankle very sensitive – I changed to bar lacing on that shoe instead of traditional x, which has helped a lot.

May try women’s first as you suggest (since I know as soon as I put it on if it fits width or not, it’s just shipping it back).

Will let you know – thanks again!

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By: Theo Clyatt https://www.runningshoesguru.com/2012/07/mizuno-wave-alchemy-12/#comment-15913 http://www.runningshoesguru.com/?p=6987#comment-15913 In reply to MJ.

MJ, the insole in the Alchemy is removable. When I say shallower it is in regard to the fit of the upper of the Alchemy 12 vs 11. Meaning that the fit is closer to the foot in the 12 and not as deep. The Alchemy 11 would probably work better with your orthotic because the upper is higher in volume but the 12 should do fine as well. Even in regular width the Alchemy last has always been a bit wider than its sister Mizuno shoes. It’s difficult for me to say whether or not you’ll like the fit of the Alchemy and I’m usually hesitant to do so since fit is so personal. I will say this though, do not be surprised if you don’t need your orthotics with the Alchemy-it has a colossal dose of stability.

In closing, I would advise you to try on the women’s Alchemy first and only progress to the men’s version if necessary. Great question and keep us updated.

Tell them Hello for me at RW!

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By: MJ https://www.runningshoesguru.com/2012/07/mizuno-wave-alchemy-12/#comment-15906 http://www.runningshoesguru.com/?p=6987#comment-15906 Hi Theo –

The guys in the Mizuno fan thread at RW forum suggested I check with you. Great site! Hoping you can help with some more details on this shoe.

I’m thinking about trying the men’s Alchemy 12. Can you tell me if the insole is removable so that I can use my custom orthotics? Also, can you explain what you mean when you say the fit is “shallower” – what does that affect, when is that good/bad?

Background:
I’m Masters female, currently wearing Brooks Ariel (aka Beast in mens) 10EE w/ orthotics (severe overpronator), some injury history). This last trainig cycle, started having bunion/top of foot issues. Ariel seems to be only womens shoes wide or controlling enough for me (miss my Hurricanes!) so I’m branching into mens to find alternatives. I’m 5’8″ and slender, but my big, wide flat feet and the overpronation control needed always seems to push me to heavier shoes, so lighter – like Mizuno – might be a nice change. The Mizuno shoe guy (“Wish”) on their site thought Alchemy would be a good one for me to try. (also, anybody know the size conversion wmns 10EE – mens? I think 8.5 but unsure reg mens width or wide)

Thanks much!

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By: Theo Clyatt https://www.runningshoesguru.com/2012/07/mizuno-wave-alchemy-12/#comment-15820 http://www.runningshoesguru.com/?p=6987#comment-15820 In reply to Barry.

Barry,

I liked the 12 better because it fit my foot more closely. The ride is the same as before. Thanks for the question.

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By: Theo Clyatt https://www.runningshoesguru.com/2012/07/mizuno-wave-alchemy-12/#comment-15819 http://www.runningshoesguru.com/?p=6987#comment-15819 In reply to Jeremy.

Jeremy, the Alchemy fits a bit wider and runs a little slower than the Nirvana. Both are superior support shoes for those with flexible arches.

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By: Barry https://www.runningshoesguru.com/2012/07/mizuno-wave-alchemy-12/#comment-15818 http://www.runningshoesguru.com/?p=6987#comment-15818 In reply to Theo Clyatt.

Hi Theo,
thanks for the info on the Alchemy 12. In your opinion, is the 12 an improvment on the 11? I have racked up a fair bit of mileage in the 11´s and have been very satisfied with them, however as i will soon be looking for a replacement i am unsure whether to get another pait of 11´s or go for the 12´s instead?

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By: Jeremy https://www.runningshoesguru.com/2012/07/mizuno-wave-alchemy-12/#comment-15716 http://www.runningshoesguru.com/?p=6987#comment-15716 How would you compare the Alchemy 12 to the Nirvana 8??

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By: Theo Clyatt https://www.runningshoesguru.com/2012/07/mizuno-wave-alchemy-12/#comment-15664 http://www.runningshoesguru.com/?p=6987#comment-15664 In reply to Barry.

Barry,

The upper in the Alchemy 12 is lower profile than the 11 but still has a roomy toe box. The mid foot and heel seem to be more fitted in the new version and the fit is a touch shallower. The support remains superb and is unchanged. I haven’t worn the Trance in a couple of versions and I’ve never worn the Beast so I’d be hard pressed to compare them but I don’t think you can lose as far as stability is concerned when it comes to the Nirvana and Alchemy. Thanks for reading.

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By: Theo Clyatt https://www.runningshoesguru.com/2012/07/mizuno-wave-alchemy-12/#comment-15663 http://www.runningshoesguru.com/?p=6987#comment-15663 Barry,

The upper in the Alchemy 12 is lower profile than the 11 but still has a roomy toe box. The mid foot and heel seem to be more fitted in the new version and the fit is a touch shallower. The support remains superb and is unchanged. I haven’t worn the Trance in a couple of versions and I’ve never worn the Beast so I’d be hard pressed to compare them but I don’t think you can lose as far as stability is concerned when it comes to the Nirvana and Alchemy. Thanks for reading.

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By: Barry https://www.runningshoesguru.com/2012/07/mizuno-wave-alchemy-12/#comment-15404 http://www.runningshoesguru.com/?p=6987#comment-15404 Hi Theo,
You mention that the fit of the Alchemy 12 is slightly narrower than that of the 11, how much of a difference is there and does it have any impact on the support the shoe offers? I enjoy the wider toe-box Mizuno has to offer and would not want anything less than the width of the Nirvana 8.
I am a fairly recent convert to Mizuno (run in Nirvana 8 and Alchemy 11) and really like the fit and feel they have, however I require a fair bit of support and was wondering how the Brooks Trance and Brooks Beast compare in terms of fit and performance to the Nirvana and Alchemy?

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